Discussion: FB, Lover & GF/BF

[DYBJ]

Dear friends, lately, I've been bombarded wif the above 3 statuses.
Of cos, there has been some debate on the relevance of them n wat they really DO mean and how they r actually to be applied.
To me:

1) FB or Friends wif benefits
When 2 persons come together to fulfill each others carnal needs n nottin more

2) Lover
To me, it's 情人 also like FB or Lover where carnal needs r fulfilled but no so emotionally linked thus can be changed as n when req'd like changing a car or underwear.

3) GF/ BF
Where of cos, carnal pleasures r fulfilled and both r emotionally attached where one care n sacrifices for the other n vice versa.
The typical path before marriage.

Please kindly contribute & educate newbie noob me on how these 3 terms r applied in real life tks

[IwasApo]

Fuck Buddy
This is where the ons or fling progresses to be a regular fuck session. In theory, you just call each other up when you need a fuck. After fuck, just fuck off. This is the strict definition of the term FB

Friends with Benefits
Sex with the FB becames not so satisfying because the female species need some friendship to lubricate their brain and become more comfortable with you. The more comfortable and relax they are with you, the better the sex. So at this stage, it becomes a Friends with Benefits r/s. Friendship includes understanding the person abit more, helping the person, giving the person advice, spending time with the person.

Lover
At some point in time, the FB wants some love from you but accepts that you will not be able to give 100% commitment and create a sub layer relationship between FwB and GF/BF. The objective of this exercise is to lubricate the female species brain further so that she will submit and be dependent on you, so that the sex can be even better.

Bf/Gf
For most people, its time to say goodbye when the FB wants to be your GF or wife. GFe includes nagging, quarrelling, telling you "you suck" and lesser expectation of sex, and more expectation of love, care and concern in preparation to marriage.

This is just a brief guide. some ppl can start from Fwb and go to FB too.
hope this helps

For the man, he must be mentally strong to know when to be soft and give, and when to be firm and stop giving, in order to control the r/s as its not as clear cut as you take $10k and everyday at 10pm I will come back, and I expect you to be ready for me.

[sane]

FB
It also depend on how u perceive the other party too. If she's a easy rider who sleep around, she will purely be termed as FB and nothing more. Basically it's just free fcuk for the guys.

Friends with Benefits/Lovers
It's a fine line between FwB and Lovers. One party is usually attached/married yet developed some feelings for each other/still want to play around.
However this type of r/s is most thrilling at its "honeymoon" period but sad to say this usually wont last within a few months. It especially lost its fun when one party take it too seriously. That's when one will start to withdraw. It's like engaging in a mind game, the one who put in more feel will "lose".
U will be at the losing end if you take it too seriously for your own good.

GF/BF till married
Usually successful only when the r/s started on the right foot. Both single, friends for many years as it require alot of trust and security feel especially for the gals. It's only likely to happen when you are young, probably in school or early 20's, will be going from rare till nearly extinct as you grow older. Upon reaching the golden age of 30's, many give up and prefer to "outsource" instead

[IwasApo]

Originally Posted by sane

FB
It also depend on how u perceive the other party too. If she's a easy rider who sleep around, she will purely be termed as FB and nothing more. Basically it's just free fcuk for the guys.

Friends with Benefits/Lovers
It's a fine line between FwB and Lovers. One party is usually attached/married yet developed some feelings for each other/still want to play around.
However this type of r/s is most thrilling at its "honeymoon" period but sad to say this usually wont last within a few months. It especially lost its fun when one party take it too seriously. That's when one will start to withdraw. It's like engaging in a mind game, the one who put in more feel will "lose".
U will be at the losing end if you take it too seriously for your own good.

GF/BF till married
Usually successful only when the r/s started on the right foot. Both single, friends for many years as it require alot of trust and security feel especially for the gals. It's only likely to happen when you are young, probably in school or early 20's, will be going from rare till nearly extinct as you grow older. Upon reaching the golden age of 30's, many give up and prefer to "outsource" instead

I see your points had gone up already. congrats for getting your power

[DYBJ]

Tks Bro IwasAPO n sis Sane for ur valuable insights.
Wud love to hear more.
Hmmmm....meaning on the KC n expectation lvl
FB FwB = Only song song till jurong no other expectation but sexpectation
Lover = Song song till jurong but some expectation but on KC lvl % low
GF / BF = All of the above plus max KC N max expectation?

senior Sane 姐姐, congrats on ur pwr n tks for ur ups

[arthurpatricia]

Dear friends, lately, I've been bombarded wif the above 3 statuses.
Of cos, there has been some debate on the relevance of them n wat they really DO mean and how they r actually to be applied.
To me:

1) FB or Friends wif benefits
When 2 persons come together to fulfill each others carnal needs n nottin more

i would say satisfy each other need without any commitment.

2) Lover
To me, it's 情人 also like FB or Lover where carnal needs r fulfilled but no so emotionally linked thus can be changed as n when req'd like changing a car or underwear.

i though lover is same like bf/gf but if in sexual terms, is like 3rd party ba, there is bound some emotion involve but is not the person u will spend ur life with...like fling fling

3) GF/ BF
Where of cos, carnal pleasures r fulfilled and both r emotionally attached where one care n sacrifices for the other n vice versa.
The typical path before marriage.

This is the person u have to stay fully committed and faithfully, and hoping the one u are with, will be the one walk with you to the end.

Please kindly contribute & educate newbie noob me on how these 3 terms r applied in real life tks

i also just contribute my 2 cent worth, hope you do not mind

[DYBJ]

Originally Posted by arthurpatricia

2) Lover
To me, it's 情人 also like FB or Lover where carnal needs r fulfilled but no so emotionally linked thus can be changed as n when req'd like changing a car or underwear.

i though lover is same like bf/gf but if in sexual terms, is like 3rd party ba, there is bound some emotion involve but is not the person u will spend ur life with...like fling flingThis one quite contradicting so pls explain the boundaries clearly tks

Tk u senior arthurpatricia for ur contribution.
But could u pls elaborate those highlighted in red further tks

[see see only]

Yo bro ...

These definitions are quite subjective sometime ….

However since you brought it up … why not you solve this little problem the democratic SBF way … start a poll for each definition and set a closing date for this polling exercise and once the closing date is up … use the majority votes to conclude the definition ….

End the confusion once and for all …

[DYBJ]

Originally Posted by see see only

Yo bro ...

These definitions are quite subjective sometime ….

However since you brought it up … why not you solve this little problem the democratic SBF way … start a poll for each definition and set a closing date for this polling exercise and once the closing date is up … use the majority votes to conclude the definition ….

End the confusion once and for all …

Tk u senior bro SSO for ur as always, wise n insightful comments.
I hv tot abt it n DO plan to do a poll ltr but not just yet.
My purpose of this discussion is to know n understand the insights n individual understanding of the above 3 statuses on a personal lvl, which thus, hv already shown some difference in understanding.
No offense 大哥, numbers say some but not all, so i wanna know where the boundaries of these terms r n when n how they can be applied correctly without any doubt or cuntfusion
Tks for ur contribution to a newbie noob's thread hehehe

[see see only]

Originally Posted by DYBJ

No offense 大哥, numbers say some but not all, so i wanna know where the boundaries of these terms r n when n how they can be applied correctly without any doubt or cuntfusion
Tks for ur contribution to a newbie noob's thread hehehe

Wow no call me 大哥



BTW you may be expecting .... never ending answer

[IwasApo]

Originally Posted by DYBJ

Tks Bro IwasAPO n sis Sane for ur valuable insights.
Wud love to hear more.
Hmmmm....meaning on the KC n expectation lvl
FB FwB = Only song song till jurong no other expectation but sexpectation
Lover = Song song till jurong but some expectation but on KC lvl % low
GF / BF = All of the above plus max KC N max expectation?

senior Sane 姐姐, congrats on ur pwr n tks for ur ups

FB & FwB the level of KC is the same.

1st step: FB will use KC to get you to make you Fwb.

typical conversation:
I really hope to see you more.
I need you to understand me.
Let me tell you my childhood story
I have a problem with my ex, I duno what to do. what do you think?
my colleauges are bullying me, what do you think I should do?
I don't know anything about you. tell me more about your girls. I want to hear about them

you: blah blah blah blah

ends with:
Thank you being there for me etc

so the girl now moved from FB to FwB now.

2nd Step: FwB will use KC to make you lovers

typical conversation:
You are really special to me
You make me feel special
I can't stop thinking about you
I'm not comfortable with being a FwB
I know you have gf/wives but let us just be lovers like this

you: blah blah blah blah

ends with:
I just need you to have me in your heart

so the girl now moved from FwB to Lover now.

after she become lover, the next target is your gf/wife's position.

typical conversation:
Why can't you treat me better?
I feel like you are just using me for sex
Can't you respect my time more?
Why do you just come and find me as and when you want? I have a life too
You don't love me anymore, you don't care I go and find someone else
No! I don't love you, how can I love someone as horrible as you?

This will ultimately lead to either question:

qn A: can we break up? or
qn B: who do you choose? your gf/wife or me?

This is used typically with a combination of disappearing acts, ignoring you, making you jealeous by saying she went out with so n so. For me, I typically choose not to play the game. This is the same game insurance n property agent play "alamak, the unit you want someone book it this morning liao!" knn, the building abandon for 5 yrs nobody want, the moment I put my cheque, somebody wants. renovation also cost $5mil. want then take lo. Then mysteriously they will re-appear to you 2 - 5days later and say they are sorry, and how important you are to them. This is also a bait, so ignore them again for 1 to 2 days then call them up, to show that you are in control and not them.

And since I know they will slowly nudge their way upwards to lover position, I upgrade them automatically to lover from day one

"I want you to know, we are not FBs, I don't treat you like a FB, to me , you are my lover because we are lovers."

Then I slowly downgrade them from lovers to FwB to FB. so by the time they ask

"You don't love me anymore, you don't care I go and find someone else"

I am already distant and nonchalent and I say

"We were always FB, and we are free to choose who we want to be with. I hope the guy u r seeing now treats you better"

and the girl is always snooked when she just realized what just happen.

[DYBJ]

Originally Posted by see see only

Wow no call me 大哥

Aiyoh y so shy 大哥, u join so long in the forum liao, I only not 1 mth old yet, of cos call u 大哥 by salutation is only proper

Originally Posted by see see only

BTW you may be expecting .... never ending answer

Well, in all honesty, it will be an educational trip for me n finally a closure to a debating topic wif my some1

[DYBJ]

Wow bro IwasAPO, power super duper long reply........
Power Power respect respect
Newbie Noob like me cfm no such indepth analytical ability hehehehe
But then back to topic, not when where wat but under what boundaries r these 3 groups applied
I think this song is applicable for such a thread:

[LadyLouHor]

Lovers= BF/ GF.
WHORE =ONS pay and go.
FB=Fuckbuddy, it shouldn't even exist, it only show you want free fuck, just go find a whore pay and go, like what we have here, touch, pay n go.

People who are married and stray are known as affairs. 犯贱，下贱。 no moral no integrity, no values and simply no respect for your lovers and marriage.

[IwasApo]

Originally Posted by DYBJ

Wow bro IwasAPO, power super duper long reply........
Power Power respect respect
Newbie Noob like me cfm no such indepth analytical ability hehehehe
But then back to topic, not when where wat but under what boundaries r these 3 groups applied
I think this song is applicable for such a thread:

senior dybj I nothing to do now so just post loh

this is a mutually beneficial agreement mah, so you are free to draft your own contract to set the boundaries. contract got alot of back and forth one mah but once 2 party can agree on something then faster faster record down and sign black n white loh.

my boundaries will be different from your boundaries. What is acceptable to you, will be different from another bro. I except my FB to be exclusive to me, another bro, senior Sis Sane, maybe say anyrider is ok.