How to advise friend KCed? by Vietnamese girl?

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

Since you know this girl, why not go down to the pub and find this girl?

i thought the TS say that this vb has gone home...
his friend spend a night with her on the day of departure.

your method may cause TS to lose a buddy leh. But I know 1 sbf bro who always like to help to test.... he is no other then jackbl

[Oopsx2010]

Thanks bros for your comments and advice.

Just had another long lecturing session with W together with some friends. Apparently W is still not accepting our views and advice.

One of the friend even suggested what bro Xgenre mentioned that he could bed the girl easily. But W is just not listening. He kept saying that we judged without knowing the whole story and it is unfair to the girl.

By the way, the girl has not returned to Vietnam yet. Now, she has gone to Malaysia with one of her 'sister' met during work to visit her friends according to W. Obviously this is bullshit! They are just doing the turnaround immgration to get another 14 days tourist stay in SG. They are expected to return this Fri.

My final effort to help W... I agreed to meet the girl this Fri. W is still trusting me I guess mainly due to I'm a female. Maybe he feels that I can see thing in a more objective manner unlike other male friends who just condemned and stereo-typing the girl.

Please advise me what should I do during the meeting of the girl? What can I do to let W see her true colour?

Originally Posted by Xgenre

Sometimes, the only way to wake someone up is through pain. What's the most painful thing you can do? Show him the truth cos the truth hurts.

Since you know this girl, why not go down to the pub and find this girl? Offer her some money to sleep with her...

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Oopsx2010

But W is just not listening. He kept saying that we judged without knowing the whole story and it is unfair to the girl.

Please advise me what should I do during the meeting of the girl? What can I do to let W see her true colour?

This is the syndrome of being KC-ed by the viet gal. He will always find excuses to defend her. The only way is to let him find out the truth himself. I am experiencing it myself also.

I do not think the viet gal will stop working. The money is too good for her to stop working here. As she works more, your friend will feel more insecure and eventually he will try to find out more.

1 bullshit thing the viet gal say is the $80/night hotel stay. Usually they have lodging somewhere at $15-$20 per day.

Just tell your friend to stop given money to her.. the true color will be out sooner than expected.

[etct88]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

This is the syndrome of being KC-ed by the viet gal. He will always find excuses to defend her. The only way is to let him find out the truth himself. I am experiencing it myself also.

I do not think the viet gal will stop working. The money is too good for her to stop working here. As she works more, your friend will feel more insecure and eventually he will try to find out more.

1 bullshit thing the viet gal say is the $80/night hotel stay. Usually they have lodging somewhere at $15-$20 per day.

Just tell your friend to stop given money to her.. the true color will be out sooner than expected.

.... the bitter pill have to be swallowed, to know the taste.........

[deptrai4u]

Originally Posted by etct88

.... the bitter pill have to be swallowed, to know the taste.........

its all a growing up process which we all have to go through so maybe let ur friend W go thru it and see how lor... meantime, ponder on these 2 points:

1. bystanders always see things clearer
2. is it fair to assume all FL are rotten eggs?


As for me, i also go thru these kind of lesson every year one... not ashame to tell you guys...

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Originally Posted by Oopsx2010

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Hearing that, W gave her $500 to settle her hotel bill and expenses. After that, W gave another $500 for her to purchase air-ticket to return to Vietnam.

On the day of departure, the girl declared that she loves W and wants to stay with him. W was touched, so he asked the girl to stay and spent the night with her in the hotel.

W told me about this incident because he is in confused state...

Originally Posted by Oopsx2010

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By the way, the girl has not returned to Vietnam yet. Now, she has gone to Malaysia with one of her 'sister' met during work to visit her friends according to W. Obviously this is bullshit! They are just doing the turnaround immgration to get another 14 days tourist stay in SG. They are expected to return this Fri.

What's the full story?????
Then the $500 supposely for vietnam air-ticket goes to where??? Malaysia holidays??? - This could be one of your meeting-WL-session question
Just do what you can as a friend and the rest is up to your friend's 造化 and course of action. Sometime, just like what Bro etct88 advised that "the bitter pill have to be swallowed, to know the taste"

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by deptrai4u

As for me, i also go thru these kind of lesson every year one... not ashame to tell you guys...

me also... I go thru these kind of lesson many times roi and yet I am going thru it again.

[alan0338]

good luck to your friend, no words will go into his ears now as expected. no worries though TS, he will wake up eventually,its just a matter of time.

[dominic7]

why bother with your friend? time better spent on other things.

[Bona_fide]

If a the girl really likes your friend, she'll have a reason on why she likes him. Ask her about it, if she comes up with some lame answer, you'll know it straight away. I wouldnt recommend a strong approach with this kinda thing, makes your friend even more defensive.

Why not ask your friend what he sees in this girl. What makes this girl so special. Then tell him guys always say its the right one, but how do u know its the right one. To be blunt there's no difference between this girl & another girl. The best cure for him would be to go out & date more girls. Then he'll realize she aint so special.

[BoLiang]

Originally Posted by Oopsx2010

Thanks bros for your comments and advice.

Just had another long lecturing session with W together with some friends. Apparently W is still not accepting our views and advice.

One of the friend even suggested what bro Xgenre mentioned that he could bed the girl easily. But W is just not listening. He kept saying that we judged without knowing the whole story and it is unfair to the girl.

By the way, the girl has not returned to Vietnam yet. Now, she has gone to Malaysia with one of her 'sister' met during work to visit her friends according to W. Obviously this is bullshit! They are just doing the turnaround immgration to get another 14 days tourist stay in SG. They are expected to return this Fri.

My final effort to help W... I agreed to meet the girl this Fri. W is still trusting me I guess mainly due to I'm a female. Maybe he feels that I can see thing in a more objective manner unlike other male friends who just condemned and stereo-typing the girl.

Please advise me what should I do during the meeting of the girl? What can I do to let W see her true colour?

what bro Xgrene said pretty much hits the spot le..abit strong arm la but if any of your male friends can bring her to hotel..for say 200 bucks..sort of sums it up, wont you agree?

200 is quite abit for a vb..certainly a good bait lo..simple things use simple method, dont complicate it further..period.

[PEACELUVER]

Originally Posted by BoLiang

what bro Xgrene said pretty much hits the spot le..abit strong arm la but if any of your male friends can bring her to hotel..for say 200 bucks..sort of sums it up, wont you agree?

200 is quite abit for a vb..certainly a good bait lo..simple things use simple method, dont complicate it further..period.

bro senior, i can bet ten bucks that even if the viet gal go to fuck other guys for $$$$, the guy will still give excuses like she need to survive, pay rent, food, family in viet need $$$ all those rubbish excuses for her la. if so easy to wake up from this type of mind games, then this matters of the heart will be gone long long ago

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by PEACELUVER

the guy will still give excuses like she need to survive, pay rent, food, family in viet need $$$ all those rubbish excuses for her la.

correct!!!!

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by Oopsx2010

He kept saying that we judged without knowing the whole story and it is unfair to the girl.

My final effort to help W... I agreed to meet the girl this Fri. W is still trusting me I guess mainly due to I'm a female. Maybe he feels that I can see thing in a more objective manner unlike other male friends who just condemned and stereo-typing the girl.

Sorry sister, didn't realised you are a lady. That's why I previously suggested you go sleep with the girl. Here are 3 of my humble suggestion.

1. Put yourself in the viet girl's shoes. Imagine yourself here to make money and you found a stupid money-tree called W. Remember: Trees have no brains and thus no capacity to comprehend caring arguments. What will you do to keep this guy? What must happen for you to let go of this money-tree? We are mostly guys here so a lot of times, we don't understand how girls think. If you can see any weakness by putting yourself in her shoes, it will be helpful. Know thy enemy.

2. I like the statement where he says you guys don't understand the story. Play the part of the sympathetic ear. Get him to answer a series of 'Yes' answers to your questions/statements to lower his guard. Examples like;

a. I can see why you will like her. She is a special girl, isn't she?
b. Somethings in life, you just got to go with your gut feeling, despite all the objections from your closest friends right?
b. No matter what happens, you think this is a right decision right?

Then shut up and listen to him tell you his FULL story. (got to be patient and tolerant. don't say anything till he finishes.) Your role is to look for weaknesses in the full story that you can exploit further later on.

Then do a series of tiring but necessary questions to probe his innermost feelings. Feelings that he may not even have thought about. It goes like this.

a. Why is she so important to you? (His answer; say 'I love her truly'. I note with a XX ok?)
b. Why is 'loving her' or XX so important to you? (His answer; say she's his future. I note with a YY ok?
c. Why does having a future or (YY) with her so important to you?

Do until he gives a very clear answer or he gives up. If he can answer you quickly, it means he really thought about this before. If he gives up, just say that since he claims you guys don't know the FULL story, you just want to make sure you understand his FULL story. Hopefully, he can realise something through his own efforts since what friends say can't connect with him.

3. The last method is the most bastard method. Take a photo with the girl. I'm sure she will be most willing to be seen as accepted by a friend of W's. Ask when she went to Malaysia and when she's back in Singapore and when she's flying off. Note down the dates. Then using that photo, email ICA to tell them this girl is working illegally against the terms of her social visit pass. Hopefully, this gets the girl banned from returning to Singapore.

My ex-gf's mum did this when she found out her husband is seeing a Malaysian work permit holder. When the PI she engaged found out that the malaysian girl is working illegally besides her designated job, she mailed the evidence collected by the PI to MOM. Girl was sent home to Malaysia, affair ended and husband returned. Till this day, her husband doesn't know the real reason why his affair ended.

[PEACELUVER]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

3. The last method is the most bastard method. Take a photo with the girl. I'm sure she will be most willing to be seen as accepted by a friend of W's. Ask when she went to Malaysia and when she's back in Singapore and when she's flying off. Note down the dates. Then using that photo, email ICA to tell them this girl is working illegally against the terms of her social visit pass. Hopefully, this gets the girl banned from returning to Singapore.

that is really a damn bastard way in this game, there are always losers, just take it with grace la, y want to spoil others life when ownself is to blame for not understanding the rules of the game? typical sore loser way of settling this type of issue! believe this word, KARMA.the fl is wrong, she will get her KARMA, the party who is bastard will also get KARMA. sorry bro genre, not pin pointing at you, just see the method liao feel that its damn cruel.BUT GENTLE REMINDER TO BROS/SIS WHO ARE PLAYING THIS KC GAME, YOU WIN SOME, U LOSE SOME! TAKE IT WITH GRACE, IF YOU LOSE, DUN BLAME ANYONE, JUST BLAME YOURSELF FOR NOT BEING SKILLFUL ENOUGH! PERIOD