Comparing Singapore and Shanghai

[31yovirgin]

After comparing what is on offer in Singapore vs Shanghai, my conclusion is the bros in Singapore got it really good........You will be surprised, prices in Shanghai are comparable to Singapore. In terms of paid sex, Singapore really not more expensive than Shanghai, unless you want local SG girls. But then, both PRC and SG girls are Chinese, so I don't see the point of paying 2-3 times more for SG Chinese P*$$ies.

Overview of Shanghai Services

At the cheapest level, you get hair salon at ~200 rmb (S$40) per bonk. The condition inside is really crappy though and the girls are usually MILF.


The next level costs 300-500 rmb (S$60-100), with occasional 600 rmb (S$120), comparable to FL Dome 2 prices, thought room and condom (PRC condoms are small) are provided. The girls are advertised on PRC equivalent of "Sammyboyforum" websites, controlled by OKT and work out of small rented apartments. The PRC price the services very efficiently. 300 rmb will be for Milf or plain Janes. Most girls will be 400 rmb (S$80) and the prettier ones priced at 400 rmb will be very hot. Those priced at 500-600 rmb will usually be worth that amount, or else they will reduce their prices very quickly due to poor demand. Quite a few PRC websites have QC problems and always post fake photos........I only use www.shlf.info as that website is the only one where I don't have fake photo problems.


The bright spot is "Spa, or 会所“ . The usual price is 680/780 (60-70 mins) for Dry Service, 780/880 (80-90 mins) for Wet Service. If you ask upfront, they can give you 2 shots instead of 1 shot. The difference of 100 rmb is due to where the 会所 is located. If you can find local advertisement, price can be reduced by 50. If you are a frequent customer, you can speak to your Manager and ask for further 30 rmb discount. Lookwise, the girls in Spa are 66% 7/10 or lower, the remaining 33% will be 7.5/10, hard to find 8/10 looks in Spa. I will say look wise, similar standards to GL Cat 150 houses. So SH not cheaper than SG, except that Spa provides a bit more services, there are usually 20+ girls instead of ~5, and you can order some finger food/noodle/fried rice FOC.

The girls are smart, they always rotate Spa every few months so that they can be "fresh meat" in another Spa. My conclusion is it pays to be a regular to a Manager. To retain you, the Manager will give you special rate, intro you the better girls, inform you when new girls come, and can reserve 1-2 girls that is likely your type for you. Reserving is important as Spa usually have good business, and the 33% better looking ones are very quickly taken up.




At the next level, I get depressed ........Shanghai has 1000 rmb/shot Freelancers (1800 rmb for 2 shots, 2500 rmb for overnight). But the OKT here NEVER put real photos on their websites! I tried once, asked for a girl whose picture look 8.5-9.0. I know the PRC always have sly tricks, so beforehand, I SMS them to get confirmation that I can reject the girl if I find she is not the same girl as shown in the picture. When the girl is reaching my place, I went down and brought my Tablet, together with her saved photo (SYT model like looks). Though the girl looks decent 7/10 (people who like foxy looks will give 7.5), she is 100% confirm different from the photo. I pay her 50 rmb taxi fare and ask her to go back.................When I look at FL Dome 3, saw the 141 Koreans, I am so sad


KTV can give better girls. At our pay level, we usually go to a KTV where drinks are 500 rmb (S$100) per person, tips to DJ/Mamasan another ~250 rmb (S$50) per person, tips to 小姐 500-600 rmb (S$100-120) per person. The girl will sit with you until you go back home, not like Singapore where they keep rotating. So, it is like S$250-300. If you take the girl back, it is another 1500 rmb, total S$550-600.......For KTV girls, if you are early, you can get up till 8/10 lookers easily. 8.5 or more I think very hard, unless you saw a girl who is really the type you like.

There are more expensive KTV with girls that are supposedly to be prettier with model-like looks. But I heard taking the girl back costs 3000 rmb (S$600) alone, add in drinks/rooms and I think S$1000 per person is the bare minimum. China has a lot of grey money, so these people have unlimited capacity to spend money on pretty women.


But if age is more important to you, SH is the place to be in. It is very easy to find 18-20 year old in SH. I check FL Dome 1,2,3 and find that nowadays like got fewer 18-19 years old liao. I will not talk of below 18 as don't want to be seem as encouraging people to commit crimes overseas .


Finally, in Shanghai, all escort related activities are illegal. So hair salons and Spa do get raided. If the police arrest someone for whoring, the standard fine is 5000 RMB (S$1000) for the customer while the girl can get away because the boss will "pull connections". In Singapore, the risks are all on the girls' side.


Concluding:
1) SH and SG prices comparable
2) SH has 5000 rmb fine risk, SG don't have.
3) It is easier to find a very chio girl in SG. In SH, advertised photos are likely to be fake if the photos are very chio
4) But it is easier to find young girls in SH, especially 18-20 yo ones

[asdfghjkl]

good comparisons between the two countries though I can hardly differentiate between the two any more..

[Lexus118]

Shanghai & Beijing are on Par with Singapore..
Go to other provinces, still very much cheaper.
Now me Only travel China, Pass on those Racist Western Countries.
I Luv ZHANG ZI YI!

[onlyhuman]

Actually not only Shanghai and Beijing....Hunan Heungyang, Chongqing, Chengdu, Wuhan are getting more and more expensive in terms of KTV and saunas. Shenzhen, Dongguan and Zhuhai is catching up fast too. Xiamen and Fuzhou prices have already ballooned up.

Gone were the days in 08 where u can get 500-700 rmb for a night...now is 800-1.3k rmb for ST only...haiz

[sony2002]

After a long time in Shanghai, here are my inputs:

Originally Posted by 31yovirgin

At the cheapest level, you get hair salon at ~200 rmb (S$40) per bonk. The condition inside is really crappy though and the girls are usually MILF.

I always go for saloon girl, usually around 100-150 per bonk, so I can afford 2-3 bonks a week. But I hate doing in the salon because of raid, so I will ta-pao overnight for around 300-500 (price depends what time you start the booking).

I agree that the girls are usually MILF, but there are also SYT and they are usually fresh in sex trade, therefore they somehow "under-paid" by the boss cos they are new. Just walk around to check out every saloon, I am sure you can find some good quality SYT like what I managed to find:

Here are some of the salon girls that I have bonked and they are great! I paid only 300 for overnight with these gems. Once I got their contact, next time I just call them to my apartment during their off days. Managed to bargain for better price with this arrangement, because the boss will not be able to take a cut.

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Originally Posted by 31yovirgin

At the next level, I get depressed ........Shanghai has 1000 rmb/shot Freelancers (1800 rmb for 2 shots, 2500 rmb for overnight). But the OKT here NEVER put real photos on their websites!

I tried a few FL when i was new in China, and got conned as usual. Avoid them at all cost!! I paid 700-800 over overnight, not only the pix are fake, the attitude of the girls are bad!

They will ask for payment before sex, but the attitude change once $$ is paid. They become just a dead fish in bed and bug me to finish off quickly.

There was once, I paid for OVERNIGHT but chased out of the flat after 1 shot!! I was threaten by her if I stay in the flat any longer, something will happen to me, so I got no choice but to find another hotel to sleep alone

[31yovirgin]

Thanks everyone for sharing your views. When I go spa or freelancers in china, I always tell them I am from fujian cos I know hokkien. They never doubt me as I can speak perfect Chinese with no English mixed in. They just commented on my heavy "fujian" accent. It is not good to let people know you are foreigners. They can gang up and pretend to be police and threaten to arrest you u less you pay 5000 rmb fine!!!

I had Choco from kbsgirls just now in FL Dome 3. She is pretty much perfect, looks 95 out of 100. Costs 400 sgd or 2000 rmb, not cheap at all. But you really cannot find such quality in China easily. I had 400, 500, 700, 2000rmb girls in China (2000rmb is ktv girl overnight), 50+ in total to date. None of them can hold a candle to Choco

If you want girls who look around 7-7.50 in China, there is quite a lot available at 400-700. But I have yet to meet a stunner like Choco .............

China is REALLY like this. The low to middle quality is plentiful and cheap. But high quality stuff, ranging from food to clothes to girls are all much more expensive than Singapore!!!

[31yovirgin]

Originally Posted by sony2002

I tried a few FL when i was new in China, and got conned as usual. Avoid them at all cost!! I paid 700-800 over overnight, not only the pix are fake, the attitude of the girls are bad!

They will ask for payment before sex, but the attitude change once $$ is paid. They become just a dead fish in bed and bug me to finish off quickly.

There was once, I paid for OVERNIGHT but chased out of the flat after 1 shot!! I was threaten by her if I stay in the flat any longer, something will happen to me, so I got no choice but to find another hotel to sleep alone

Yah, in Shanghai at least, a lot of fake picture postings on the freelance websites. Www.shlf.info is the only reliable one I have seen to date where 99% of the girls are those In the pictures, though sometimes can be a bit heavily PS. Once, I saw a very pretty young girl at 300/shot, 800 overnight at one website. Immediately book overnight and went to her hotel. Open the door to see a slim but average looking Milf. Immediately went back home!!

Even those websites advertising 1000 rmb per shot girls also unreliable. You really need to have good contacts, know who is reliable, before you get a beauty 8.5 or more. From what I read, girls 8.0 or more in terms of looks are at least 1000 rmb per shot, assuming you can get them in the first place. So I think the top lookers in FL Dome asking for S$300 per shot is pretty decent. In Singapore, you get reliability, OKT will usually not bluff you cos the market is small and words get around. China is too big and too much hungry men for reliability to be important.

In china, I always pay after bonking. In Singapore, I can pay before bonking because here everything is rule based and people have a code of honor. But in china, I did get 2 really young 18yo who are sweet lookers (one 8.0 looks other 8.5 looks) with very nice slim bodies, tight pussies and nice boobs at 400-500 rmb per shot. A pity they have quitted after earning enough extra money.

When I am back in Shanghai, I will stick to my regular s$140 spa for 2 shots, free food and a nice bath. Manager know me so will keep the better girls for me

And of course, shlf for the occasional gem

[sony2002]

Yah best is to stay low profile and not let them know that you are foreigner

[songest]

In Shanghai can get 空中飞人 (girl suspended head down from red cloth hanging from ceiling and spinning while having your little bro in her mouth). In Singapore there was but none that I know of currently.

[sony2002]

Originally Posted by songest

In Shanghai can get 空中飞人 (girl suspended head down from red cloth hanging from ceiling and spinning while having your little bro in her mouth). In Singapore there was but none that I know of currently.

wow..interesting....but what if the cloth give way while spinning.....

[asdfghjkl]

Originally Posted by songest

In Shanghai can get 空中飞人

o m g ... first time hearing this.. learning new things daily..

[sane1]

Originally Posted by sony2002

wow..interesting....but what if the cloth give way while spinning.....

Lol!!, tat's really a good one which made me burst out laughing

[sane1]

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[Ice2005]

Originally Posted by songest

In Shanghai can get 空中飞人 (girl suspended head down from red cloth hanging from ceiling and spinning while having your little bro in her mouth). In Singapore there was but none that I know of currently.

Hi bros, do they still have that? can intro the location? Tried that long time ago good experience but rare now.

[Confidant]

Originally Posted by Lexus118

Shanghai & Beijing are on Par with Singapore..
Go to other provinces, still very much cheaper.
Now me Only travel China, Pass on those Racist Western Countries.
I Luv ZHANG ZI YI!

True! try the dongbei provinces.