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Dear bros,few of my friends who work at home affair have confirm me that police is monitoring this site and gather infor for raids. That y many joints and fl Okt syndicates active over here r caught. Hence if you come across anything interesting thar you wish to share , do not post the shop name or location. Pls help to keep our playground safe. Tks.

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Thanks for yr alert.

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if I am av I would also come here (and all other related forums and sites) to get info. better than to randomly ask any sheepish looking guy in gland.

can surf porn and call it work = win.

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It's quite obvious why this site is still allowed. It's so easy to shut it down. Even if it's hosted remotely in another country, so what? Just work with all the Internet Service Providers, and get them to block this site.

But why do that? The AV can get so many leads here. So many pairs of eyes helping them spot the problem areas and they just have to move in to raid. It's like letting the white snake loose and then having it lead man to the 1000 year old Ginseng root.

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x2.... exactly my thought too.

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Bro, learnt a new theory here. Cool. Well said......

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It's a good advice and reminder to all bros in the forum.
Please keep it in your mind before posting.

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:Droger !!!!

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If everyone dont post location and name of the joint. The av will spend quite some time to figure out the place. If they need to spend lot of time to gather little infor,maybe they will let this site off. As this is not a easy place to gather infor or source.
But if everyday we post fr and together with the name of shop or location. Of cos the av will glue to this site like leech.Because this site make their work easy mah and also 100% can break case,who dont want,right.
So bros over here,pls work hand in hand.cheer!

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I agree with Bro buzzcheong. The AV may know what is going on in this scene, however they may not have the minor details. By writing FRs in open forum, it will serve them as a convenient reference for records.

I would also suggest names of people should NOT be mentioned in open forum as well.

The mindset of sharing openly in the HC forum should be changed, the climate of the HC scene has changed completely. It would be unwise to keep providing information in a place where it is monitored by authorities.
(However does not apply to the Geylang thread, which is known to be the legal red light district)

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agree wif u bro

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AV getting big bounes

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Couple bros got it right....

I'll tell you a story....grab a cup of coffee
A few years ago my brother in law got busted and did 2 years in a federal prison in the States. What he did was go to Limewire in the morning search for "porn", select all, and download all. He would come back in a few hours to see what he got (downloaded).

Part of what he got was childporn. He's not into that, and he deleted it. This went on for approximately 3 months. Then one day, the FBI came into his shop and arrested him for possession and distribution of child porn. When they searched his computer they didn't find any child porn. As I said, he's really not into that.

However, because he was using bit torrents where he was unknowingly "seeding," by definition of the law that technically represents "distribution." And that's what he was busted for--distribution.

Now, to get to the point...off the record, the prosecutor told my brother in law that he knows he's not really guilty in the sense that we would expect distribution to be. And my brother in law told the prosecutor and the FBI, then why don't they close sites like limewire down? Their response was more or less...they keep it open because that's how the FEDS catch people. For years, Limewire was a tool for the FEDS and one of the easiest ways for them to catch childporn was by keeping sites like limewire open.

So if you ever wonder why the MDA shuts down some sites and keeps this one open when parts of it obviously promotes illegal activity, its because like the FEDS, this website is a tool for the AV, and I would guarantee the AV wants this website open....because this is where they get a lot of their info...we are all spoonfeeding them.

Today limewire finally has more or less shut down, but there are bit torrent sites still such as iso hunt and pirate bay among a few.

To end this story, my brother in law is out of prison, but for the rest of his life he is labeled as a sexual offender. Whenever he applies for work, moves to a new house, wherever he goes, he has to register himself as a sexual offender. As mentioned, you all had better believe that this website is a definite tool for AV.

Loose lips sink ships........

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Thanks sgshiok for your story..

I want to suggest that SBF is not just a source for the AV but for the conservative singaporeans who took it upon themselves to rid SG of such illicit activities shared here. After all, i'm pretty sure there are people who visit SBF and take down addresses, then call up the police to report on these locations. Police will then have no choice but to act on these tip offs. Such people include New Paper reporters, religious right wingers, conservative people who think SBF is tearing apart family and social values.

I strongly believe the increase in raids is not because AV has finally stepped up, but that the SPF must be seen to remove all 'undesirable' foreigners who are here working on illegal activities, because of upcoming elections and concerns about influx of foreigners. Raids should decrease after elections.

What can we do? I don't think there's anything wrong with sharing per se. But I think the easy access to this site is a problem - it is indexed in google, anyone without an account can view this forum publicly.

As of 121am tonight, there are:
13191 ACTIVE users - 5553 members and 7638 guests (ie can view forum, do not have user account)
Total SBF members 164913
Active users in this forum alone - 1093

Singaporean Males aged 15-65 yrs old: 1.28million. That means about 12% of hot blooded Singaporean males are members of SBF. If you assume an equal proportion of guests are here because they are interested in the activities in SBF, then about 25% of Singaporean males like SBF, or 1 in 4.

That's a lot of attention this site is getting.

I think at the minimum...
a. Limit all forums to users with valid accounts.
b. Limit sharing to users with a minimum rep points (eg 40).
c. Users who want to up their rep points need to contribute by offering up original FRs, or share pics/vids. This will eliminate most conservatives who fear being arrested for 'distribution'.

Lock down the system. That's one step forward i think..

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i should add that while AV might be aware that some joints offer special, unless they can catch the ladies in the act, it is useless for them. so recent reports seem to be that AV have now gone undercover, sent one of their men in to a joint to see if he gets propositioned, and then send in their squad.

Ladies should be more careful of new customers..

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Pardon me, if i am not wrong...
MDA cannot closed some site as it was not locally setup.
SBF is not registered locally...
But they do monitor and keep track...

So still agree with the bros to be discreet on our haunt...
Our HC are not the only one affected,
some of the local gay spa also kena due to overexposure in their forum,
those home massage are not even spared!

With or without info here, they will still slowly find what they want,
I just hope that by being discreet will slow down the chance and rate of being raid.

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What is deem as valid accounts?? :confused:

If I am a AV, do you know??? :D Anyone behind a computer, in cyber world can be anyone....

FRs can be fake. I can write tons of FRs too if I want to gain trust. Most of the share pics n vids r copied from another forums or website. The numbers of original pics and vids are only a few.


Cannot close but block. MDA can easily send a memo/orders to all ISP to block a certain site.... so no different between close n block. How many of us will use backdoor access to a website??? Try playboy website, u will know....


There is no sure proof ways to prevent.... the only way is be smart when dealing with samsters.

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well said. words fr a seasoned chiongster indeed.

i dont think the local authorities will go to d extent to close d site if it's not hosted in SG. think there shd be foreign laws to protect them.

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All HCS are licensed by CID, what AV needs is to go & visit
Licencing Dep to get the new approved HC.

AV knows everything. But as I mentioned serveral times in the Forum,
if HCs only provide JG/HJ, AV will close one eye. It is those HCs that
advertise - Private room, shower attached, young & attractive massaues
that will catch their eye. This happens everyday - buy New Paper today
& u will know which HC provides Full Service.

I know of some MP or HC that provide ONLY HJ with a little roaming,
they never got any AV visit.

So, judge yourself.

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Bro,ard 95 per cent of adelphi joints provide HJ and they do not have shower room inside the massage but they also kena very hard. Let me share with you, the more attention the place have,the more dangerous the place is. So the easy way out,is to keep low profile. So bros over here pls dont anyhow post FR,tks.

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I agree on the fact that this site is kept open for the AV to collect info so guys, PLEASE keep it down for the time being, at least till the GE is over, cause i think all this is for the sake of the GE over, once hopefully things will go back to the same before....:(

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Not that many adverts by the HCs in the Newpaper nowadays anyway. Either because they are getting smart and staying low or all kena raided until no more left. :rolleyes:

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bros, this is really scary. let's all be careful and play safe.

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Many raided and close down.. Right only a few left, and if we don't protect it, all be gone too.

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AV-officers please read this:

1.Busting adults who are having mutual sex, 2.telling them it is bad and 3.fining them for this. Nowadays this is your lousy job within the AntiVice-department of the Police Force. You are made to believe that adult people should be punished for having paid sex and are not allowed to have a good time.
Come on, are you proud of your job? Don't you think it is childish to bust adults. Don't you think it's better to find yourself another job?

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yes.you are so right. But many are still not listening............

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AVs will not shut this site as it is better to centralise a place where they monitor and watch out for child porn or some gang related activities...

Some brothers mention about Adelphi.. Hello, that is next to the high courts, and to have vice next to it? Also, if some stupid idiots were to talk to newspapers about it, AVs sure have to act. cannot just sit still, do nothing.

Vice are here to stay, that is for sure, but keeping control and monitoring is what AV do... As long as they dont get out of hand, they would not act on it too much...

Look at past events that are recorded in this forum too.... from Joo Chiat( residents complain), Pearls Centre, Chinatown( all out in papers), and the PRCs who are prowling everywhere( newspapers), AV has to act.

Look at the FLs, did they get caught? Not that I know of in this forum yet. A woman has to make a living, and vice is the last resort for some, who need quick money to settle problems.

Those OKT who lives off WLs, these are the ones the AV go after. Too huge a network will lead to too much gangster and underworld activities like loanshark and other stuff, which the govenment wants to control.

AVs are selective on who to go after too... and brothers here should be more discreet not to be too open about the names of the gals too.... HCs are closely monitored.

Like some brothers mention, when the WL are caught in the act, they get punished. So, it is their luck if they are caught. Cant help it. But we can reduce their chances by being discreet.

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Well said bro Newyorker88. AV has a job to do and we need to be discreet in our FR. That's the only way to go these days. The Golden days are gone.

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Actually, this has been happening for decades already. But thanks for alerting everyone here.

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Truelygree with your bro
Being discreet is the way to go, tone down the FR, info can be passed thru PM. AV would not relentlessy go for a kill if samsters shows sense of moderation in their pursuits of sexcapade.